Saturday, December 02, 2006

A thought provoking question
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I have become rather fond of a class called strategic management, quite uncharacteristic of me. Impressed and inspired by the professor, the discussions and my brilliant classmates, I spent the last four sundays, trying hard to stick to the deadlines and at the same time, submit good assignments. One has to, when the professor is capable of remembering what exactly you wrote and pointing out discrepancies in the next class. A discussion based approach is followed and as more than half the enrolled students dropped out, five each after every assignment is announced, everyone in the small bunch of the students does their own share of ACP (Arbitrary Class Participation), including me.
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In the last class, we watched a video on Enron and its downfall and were discussing the case and ethics in business in general. It very naturally flowed towards the assumptions of a 'self interest maximizing, rational, economic man' and the way theories based on this assumption influence organizations. At this point, a Mexican in the class made an observation, "In the East, especially in India, where most of the people follow a religion called Hinduism (he looked at me for assurance that the name is right), due to the influence of this philopshy, the country is against capitalism and people are not after money." The professor turned to me then , "So Sudheera, what do you think of it? Does the high economic growth have any implications? Lets hear your comments on your homeland."
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Economic growth and cultural implications -hmm - I told the class about how the previous generations were satisfied with a steady income and a reasonably a good life and how our generation is highly ambitious, is more competitive and agressive, that things are surely changing and then switched to my usual rhetoric about how free weekends are a luxury for us. Here, Susanna (exchange student to IIFT in 2004) tried her best to assist me in describing the horrors of life at IIFT. We made it sound gruesome I guess, because half the class were gasping aloud; the professor was upset and ended up saying its all traumatic.
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The episode ends here but it triggered off a bee hive of thoughts. Who are this race called Indians? How exactly did the philosphy affect our being? Is it working in contrast to the economic growth? Are things really changing fast or is it the usual, normal change that occurs with the passage of time? Are many of these assumptions about Hinduism true? At least being after the money part, no. My words mocked at me when I once said Indians don't like to flaunt wealth. Just remember the last wedding that you attended.
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On reflection, although we are not a spiritual race as we are portrayed to be, we aren't too materialistic either. The population and economic growth meant more competition and longer working hours, compensated with increasing real wages and high spending power. The pie has increased and so has the clamour to grab a share of the pie. But we are certainly not 'Americanized' - family ties (read nuclear) are emerging stronger as the times get tougher; more people are concerned about purpose in life. I think we do not have a hedonistic approach to life - yes, some of us still feel guilty of splurging. Globalization and economic growth did have an impact on our way of life, but they did not change us completely. More often than not, we live in dichotomy.
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While this means we are torn about the choices we make, it also means that there are cultural traits that remained unchanged. Probably it is all about being a flexible and dynamic culture, shedding some aspects, retaining some and assimilating others. The recursive and discursive theories are simultaneously at work in India. We survived many transformations, let alone changes, all the while retaining that distinctive character. A high economic growth for a few years would be just another one of those. A glitch or at most a trend in a cycle that goes on - Afterall, 4000 years is not a short time.

9 comments:

రానారె said...

Wonderful. You came to a conclusion at the end of this post.
Hindu is not a religion. It is a Dharma, a life style.
Hinduism is not founded by a single person, like many other religions. There are no set of rules. It is a civilization evolved. A confortable life style of individuals to be well part of a civilized society. I guess you said the same in these words "Probably it is all about being a flexible and dynamic culture, shedding some aspects, retaining some and assimilating others".

This assimilation factor is made so easy because Hinduism has no strict pre-set rules. In Andhrapradesh it is quite accepted for a man to marry his elder sisters' daughter. It is a taboo in Bihar. Both are Hindus. It is just an example to say Hinduism is ruled by society and conforts.

"We survived many transformations, let alone changes, all the while retaining that distinctive character." when there is a lot of scope for allowing change (assimilation), it can survive another 4000 years or may be more.

I agree on one more point.
I observed a lot of awareness in this generation, about how important it is to be an Indian. We are not blindly following any culture. Any change is again a result of careful assimilation.

When it comes to flaunting money, it is now 'considered no-so-civilized-act' by this generation. This generation understands that marriage is not to show off. Do you agree with me?

Myriad Enigmas said...

I did not touch upon that 'so-often-touted' funda of Hinduism being a life style because I was not sure about it myself. It definitely has some wordly implications to it, namely the customs and rituals although these vary in time and distance.

There are two views one can take in this regard:
1. It is actually a collection of many interlinked religions, with the main stream Hinduism being aggressive and trying to impose itself on others, sometimes leading to their death. The often quoted example is the cults of 'gramadevathalu', who originally did not accept the Hindu Gods as Gods at all - but now the situation is known.

2. It is an all encompassing religion. In the previous case, main stream Hinduism accepted these 'grama devathalu' as important Gods or Goddesses. Actually SSY and some organizations call Jesus as one of the masters who travelled certain distance in the path of self-realization and worship him alongside some Gurus.

The second view makes me more comfortable. Although I think Hinduism has all the characteristics of a religion, there is the 'Hindu Philosphy' (Gita playing a prominent part in it), which separates itself from the religion and affects all those who come into contact with it.

రానారె said...

GramaDevata - the name implies it is worshipped by a group of villagers. A few miles away another village, another Devata. A small story about her but not much to guide peoples lives. For my logic it seems, this Devata is originated out of fear. Fear of diseases that killed masses. Fear of natural calamities. This was true with Southern part of India at least. Modern Hindu Gods such as Rama and Krishna have a big story around them and a lot of things to learn for a better social life. Probably that attracted these small groups of people. Ramayanam, Bhaaratham and Bhaagavatam were translated to local languages by a few poets a few centuries ago. The rulers had great respect for these works and it is spread across their countries. People worshipped Rama and Krishna and others associated. That might have brought all the people under one big roof.

Self realization. I do know the approach of Jesus, but I knew a few things about Gouthama Budha. When asked about Gods existence, his reply (in my words) was - "It doesn't matter. Think about yourself and try to realize how your desires are manipulating you. This matters." He never talked about worshiping some one. He says "observe your thoughts. You will know your state of mind. Keep doing it all through your life. That is meditation." I feel this approach is practical. People made his idols and started worshiping him. He became a God. This is all just MY understanding. Comments!?

Coming to the “Thought provoking question”, any more thoughts on how Hinduism affects economic growth? Religion and economic growth, Is it part of your studies?

Myriad Enigmas said...
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Myriad Enigmas said...

Thanks for your views. They are informative.

My studies?? Far from that. I'm doing MBA after engineering.

రానారె said...

Hi, I did a terrible msitake in my previous comment. Sorry about that. Please read it as - "I do not know the approach of Jesus, but ...". I have absolutely no idea about that subject.

Sudhie said...

Good discussion Sudhi
Coming to the question, Hinduism affecting growth....
My Answer is Big NOOOOOOOO
No way caste fanatism is affecting our countries economic growth. Then the question is which is affecting our growth, See what happaned over last few decades first.
Pre-colonial time, Religion, especially Hinduism, and the caste and the joint family systems, played an influential role in shaping economic activities. Superstitions about foreign travel among Hindus meant that a large part of India's foreign trade was conducted by foreigners and Muslims. One estimate puts the revenue of Akbar's Mughal Empire in 1600 at £17.5 million.
Coming to Colonial Period, it brought an institutional environment that guaranteed property rights, encouraged free trade, and created a single currency with fixed exchange rates, and many, but when this period was over, India suffered great economic loss, Ofcourse british also faced the same at that period of time.
After Independence, Nehru formulated new economic principles which focused on Protection of wealth and Government intervention on businesses. it helped but at the time of P.V.Narasimha rao and Manmohan, economic growth improved a lot....
Thus i can conclude, Our Economic growth is affected by following factors
Regional imbalance(which may or may not include Hinduism)
Poverity... and it was at the time of pre colonial period, where foreigners and others hold much of the property and there is no question of growth
Sudhi...baga raasana...yemanna thedalunte delete cheseddam :D

Myriad Enigmas said...

nice history sudhie, but i guess my argument was just the opposite.. looking at the implications of economic growth and how it changed things than the other way round.

Sudhie said...

yes, you are true..i have gone through the original post again...i must have concentrated more on comments rather than original post, which lead to my misunderstanding. anyway i will be back with some good points again soon